Post a bill only once the posted date for the bill has arrived
When I enter a date for a bill, I want it such that the totals are updated only once the bill date has arrived. Like for example if my friend before posting the bill owed me $0. Now if I post a shared bill for say $50 and I have kept its date as 5 days in the future. I want the app to reflect that my friend owes me $25 5 days in the future, not immediately. Right now, the way the app works is that, it would have reflected that my friend owes me $ 25 right now.
Adrian DSouza
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Updating this because it’s been a while! We still haven’t added this to our roadmap.
As we mentioned we’ve found in testing that this behavior ends up confusing people, which is why we’ve chosen not to add it so far.
We’ll continue to leave this under review for further voting and comments.
33 comments
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R. Mann
commented
The main benefit of this is simplifying settling up on bills/payments that have already been paid. It would be especially useful in cases where a previous bill is added retroactively, so everyone in the group can settle up without also paying for future bills.
Alternatively, this could be solved by having a way of marking specific bills/payments as settled when using the "settle up" feature, but I understand that's probably more complicated to implement.
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chris
commented
would also love this feature!
I use splitwise to track rent with my housemates...making me and my housemates very big splitwise users!
we use recurring expenses to track the recurring rents. When I want to update the rent costs (landlord price hikes) I need to delete the recurring rent bill (since changing it also changes the past values) and I then create new recurring rent charge. But when I do this splitwise says that rent is due immediately even if the date on the first rent charge is set to a future date.
we use splitwise to track the most important recurring costs in our life! would love a feature like this that made using splitwise easy for us =)
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Jürg
commented
I also think future expenses should not show up until they are due
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Matt
commented
We have recurring bills setup and the values for bills coming in later in the month are included in the balances, we'd like them to not be included so that we can tell if we're square today.
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Rhiannon Batstone
commented
Perhaps add it as an optional feature like the simplify group debts option?
Otherwise it seems somewhat pointless to even have the ability to add a future date -
Harjot Grewal
commented
Yes, I'd like for this feature as well. Perhaps have a pay date as due now by default. And allow the option to change it. These expenses won't appear on the "settle up" until that date.
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Alex Beaven
commented
Surely an upcoming bills section would not confuse users. Keep it sort of hidden and colour code it.
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Joseph Jordan
commented
I'll throw my hat in- I'd like to see this as well. I scheduled a payment out in march, but it shows due today (January). We should at least have the option to turn it on/off.
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Catarina Gonçalves
commented
For a better understanding, I'll try to explain my specific situation. My friends and I share a Netflix account, and the monthly payment is done through my account. We established that each one of us would pay a full monthly fee on a rotating basis. So, when it is not my turn, the person assigned to that month must transfer me the amount of the fee. Since we have already a plan stating who pays and when, it would be helpful if I could add the planned transfers but that they would only be included in the balance after the established date.
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Joshua Grantom
commented
I think you should add it to your road map because this is a make or break feature for most people. Rent should not show up before the date it is due.
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dhruv
commented
Suppose I put expenses today. And I paid using my credit card(cc). I have to pay the credit card bill after 1.5 months. But the balance calculation will be done in this credit card cycle. Hence I will receive the money from my friends in this cc cycle but I have to pay that in next cycle.
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Anonymous
commented
I think it could be something like "due date" and "pay date" or maybe an option. You enable this feature if you want to.
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Anonymous
commented
I think it's just a matter of posting the total owed now. And displaying but greying out any future payments due. Wouldn't that be clear?
As it stands now it seems as if I demanding the rent early.
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Rose Bee
commented
I would like to see this as well. This feature would be especially useful for recurring bills that are not fixed (such as gas and electricity) that have pre-authorized payments out of one person's account. It's more confusing to me if the app tells me I owe someone money for something they haven't paid yet. You should be able to enter the bill as soon as you receive the notification and not have it effect the balance owed until the post date. I use budget software with this feature and it functions similar to a recurring bill- it is shown in the upcoming bill window but doesn't affect the budget until the transaction date. As you already have the upcoming bill window for recurring bills, I don't see how it would be confusing to add one time future bills there as well.
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Sam Gerber
commented
Just adding to the band wagon, this is the first thing I looked for and was disappointed by in this app.
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Tyler Verbais
commented
I.e. In a month we will have to pay X. As is, if you set the date for an expense in the future it reflects on the groups balance right now. So if in a month we have to pay a $200 service charge for whatever, it looks like everyone owes that money right now. Add the ability to set future payments, as well as reoccurring payments starting on a date other than the present day. The reminder time period could be the time period that the balance would become active. (So if you set it to remind you 3 days before the expense, at that time the expense would reflect in the groups' balances.)
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Patrick Lanigan commented
Or just provide an option to "view balance as of <date>". That date could go into the future. It could be a slider or a calendar selection. That would also allow us to look at balances as of a specific date in the past, say "last month's balance".
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Kalyan Addagalla
commented
May be you can display but grey out, as it might confuse me if I entered a bill for a later date or not. I can't wait till 21st to check if I entered my cable bill or not. I would be fine if you grey out, so atleast I know I entered.
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Todd Yates
commented
This is the biggest issue with Splitwise right now. I have multiple bills/taxes which are monthly but the first month was a higher amount (due to setup fees or the way that the split is rounded). So I add the first bill for £30 with today's date and then I add a recurring bill for £20 with next month's date. The latter appears immediately and everyone owes me the money. This doesn't make sense and seems to cause a lot more confusion than just having that bill listed on the "upcoming bills" tab until the actual date.
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Kate
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Maybe splitting it into two parts "please pay me by" and "bill due by"? But yeah, reoccuring bills are effectively useless to our household when they show up as due right away when it's actually due at the end of the month.