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Family/Couples' account

When I was using Billmonk a few years ago, my wife and I started out with separate accounts, but since we share finances, often times we'd be repaying debts for one another (since we have the same friends) and it got confusing. My solution was to just turn my account into "Joe&Jane Smith" and have all our expenses go through one account and removed her account completely.

I'm not sure the ideal implementation for this situation. Perhaps a "family account." Perhaps the ability to add multiple email addresses would work (but unlike a previous feature request, this application would be such that a family could share an account under different members' email addresses). Then if people tried to add the husband or wife as a friend via email address, it'd add the "family account" instead and work accordingly.

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    Daniel shared this idea  ·   ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
    started  ·  AdminSplitwise Support (Admin, Splitwise) responded  · 

    Splitwise has some basic support for this now, depending on what you’re looking for. We now support multiple email addresses for a single account, so you can more easily share one account with multiple people.

    However, we won’t automatically adjust how much you should owe as a “couple”. For example, if “Bob” adds an expense with “Sue and John’s Couple Account”, then the bill will be split 50/50 between those two Splitwise accounts. I can definitely see how it would be useful to automatically make Sue and John pay for 2 shares, but we’re unlikely to add that feature in the near future. For now, you can still work around this by manually using the “Split by shares” option when adding a bill, and assigning 2 shares to the relevant account.


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      • Drew Levitt commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I'm trying to settle up with a bunch of friends, some of whom are in partnered couples and some of whom aren't. In order to correctly split shared expenses, it's important to represent each of us as individuals, but if some people are operating as a household with unified finances, it would be good for debts to consider the couple as a shared entity.

        For example, I paid for a bunch of stuff on a recent trip and my partner did not. So I am owed money but she "owes" money. In reality, she should not owe money so long as I am owed more than she "owes" - her "debt" should pass through me.

        I can think of a couple of ways Splitwise could handle this:
        1. For each member of a group, include a field indicating how many "shares" that member has. So one member could represent me and my partner together, with two shares, and another member could represent my single friend, with one share.
        2. Somehow enable users to specify which friends are part of their household.

      • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Yes I want what you owe as a "couple". the problem with combining the people is there are situations where both people of a couple aren't part of an individual expense. Lets say for example on a group trip the wife goes to get drinks with the group but the husband is not there. I still want the flexibility to say who was part of each expense at the individual level I just wan the settlement to get grouped by "couple"

      • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I go on trips with both single people and married couples. everything in splitwise is at the individual level. This is helpful when entering expenses because only one person in the couple might participate.

        However when settling up it would be nice to group 2 people together as a married couple and count them as one. Otherwise you end up with a situation where one person in the couple could be getting money and the 2nd person has to pay. It would be a great feature to net these down.

      • Mihai Pintilie commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I've recently been on a trip with some friends and some couples. Not everyone wanted to install Splitwise, but every individual contributed equally to the group expenses. Additional info: all couples shared money e.g. one of them paid debts / received money for both of them.

        Use case:
        - my friend wanted to pay me back for his and his wife's debt to me, while his wife did not have the app installed (so only I saw how much she was supposed to pay me back)

      • Lorenzo commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Allow simplified debts between couples.
        EG every individual user inputs their expenses into the app; then when it comes to balance the debits, assume they together owe one single amount instead of two separate, if they prefer

      • Michael Hewitt commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        This idea should be clarified as just adding a way to join people into an shared account or bill. Like a joint bank account. Each person should be seperate and owe their share but the joined people would automatically settle because their finances are shared. This could work as a family group if you need to include kids as well

      • Nikhil Prasad commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        We are two couples, or four people, who go on holiday. We split all the bills individually. But when we come to pay, one person from each couple is responsible.

        Is it therefore possible to add people and say that this other person pays for all their bills?

      • Dan Voss commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Two suggestions:

        1) Before people have signed up and joined a group, the group should be able to create a "place-filler" for them to keep the numbers accurate.

        2) A "couples" option should be included to simplify calculations of one account paying on behalf of multiple people.

      • Chris Combs commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        My wife and I have joint finance, as do many of our Splitwise-using couple friends. It would be nice to be able to mark another Splitwise user as "joint finance" for the purpose of resolving debts. Treated equivalently within a group. A payment to userA==a payment to userB.

        Currently we have to resolve fake debts between each other as "cash payments" and nobody really trusts the Simplify Debts logic to figure this out. I'd love to see this feature added.

      • Harald commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Een connectie tussen personen met een gezamenlijke rekening zou handig zijn.

        A connection between persons with the same bankaccount would be welcome.

      • Shashikant Satapathy commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        integrated profile for different purposes from Pg to family variety allow the user to manage self income and expenses or family income and expenses and bill and insurance management

      • ramesh.chatakolla commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        This is useful families traveling together. In this case, each family has to be calculated based on number of members in family.

      • Renee Tobiassen commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        It would be great if the app allowed you to group people together. My family and I recently went on a vacation that included both couples and single people. It was great to be able to split expenses equally across everyone, but became difficult to simplify settling up. When Mom owes you, but you owe Dad, and your Dad owes your husband, the app expects cash movement between couples that wouldn't typically happen. The ability to say Mom and Dad are 2 people for expenses but 1 person for settling up would be awesome.

      • George commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        They'd still be separate people so you can divide things between more people, but it could add debts and balances for you to settle up as a couple

      • Jen commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I just used this for the first time tonight and because I was in a group of 7, with my husband and I being the only joint account holders it was really confusing at first. I agree with the below comments, if when settling up you can select users with a joint account it and have it just prioritize how you settle up it would be great! Myself and one other guy ended up owing money at the end. The app had me pay my husband and one other person, but the other guy that owed money only paid my husband. If two people are on a joint account and could note it and then I would have been "paying" my husband and the other guy could have made the two payments.

      • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Both my husband and I will make and add expenses separately, but would like to pay as a single entity. If use could choose at end to settle up as "just me" or "more than one person", splitwise could then further combine things for outgoing payments AND for others' incoming payments.

        This would allow "guy stuff" to still be split among just the guys and "family stuff" to be split among all attendees, for example, but all paid at the end together.

      • Patrick Szalapski commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        There is an easy way to implement this: I could simply mark myself as "joint" with another user. Then I would never owe them debts, nor they me, but otherwise Splitwise would work the same as it does now. For example, If I split a $100 charge among my wife and two others, I would be owed $25 from each of the others but not from my wife.

      • Leo Barnes commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        In mobile I can easily track payments for someone else by simply adding a payment for that person. It would be great if I could also directly pay for that person with Venmo like I can for myself. Me and my wife frequently settle up for each other since we have shared economy, but then have to make the actual payments separately since that doesn't happen automatically when you do it for someone else.

      • Aaron commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I agree with Hugo Vacher that the easy solution to this would be to have separate accounts for each person, but debts and payments to each are aggregated. I don't mind having separate accounts for my wife and me, but I don't want it to split out what I need to pay/receive from what she does, or we spend the whole time multiplying things. Combining things only at the finance/debt calculation stage solves the unequal shares point properly, as the bill can be shared as normal by the five people who attended, even if that translates at the debt-payment stage to 2/5 for each couple and 1/5 for the fifth person.

      • Michael commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Grouping when simplifying debt's would be awesome because I can use a person for everyone in the group but Easley pay for my entire family (wife and kids). Then saving a default share in a group would help to make the kids cheaper on expenses.

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